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but today, leon panetta was saying we're not coming to any conclusions. he was out on camera saying he's a great guy, and a great leader. and i think he got pushed back from the white house that probably wasn't that happy they went out and kind of threw john allen under the bus so quickly. but i-- you know, on first blush, this is nothing like petraeus. on the other hand, you've got a general in afghanistan back and forth, 12 emails a day with this socialite in tampa who they say are friends of theirs. i think there's still a possibility that some e-mails may have been inappropriate. that's why doing this investigation, that's why they don't want to clear him right away. it's also that issue of when you think about it, going into private e-mails, how many of us would want people going into our private e-mails? so this started as jill kelly getting harassment e-mails from an anonymous kelly patrol, and it turned out, according to officials, was paula broadwell. but in that investigation, they go into all these private e-mails. it's a really interesting-- g
but today, leon panetta was saying we're not coming to any conclusions. he was out on camera saying he's a great guy, and a great leader. and i think he got pushed back from the white house that probably wasn't that happy they went out and kind of threw john allen under the bus so quickly. but i-- you know, on first blush, this is nothing like petraeus. on the other hand, you've got a general in afghanistan back and forth, 12 emails a day with this socialite in tampa who they say are friends of...
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he's kept the confidence of the president and secretary panetta. so he will keep his job. the war will go on as it has for the past 11 years. >> jennifer: okay. since the president and secretary panetta issued a supportive statement does that indicate his denial checks out? general allen has denied, of course, having an inappropriate relationship with jill kelley. >> what a lot of people here in town think it means is that if he broke some form of protocol or some military guideline it wasn't enough to trigger a criminal investigation by the fbi or by other federal officials and so that's the reason the justice department and the fbi handed this matter over to the pentagon's suspected general for it to look into it. that still could have serious repercussions for general allen. by keeping him on, by not suspending him as they have other general officers accused of crimes, it indicates they're hoping he can survive this and keep going with his career. >> jennifer: 20,000 to 30,000 e-mail pages, that has got to be an exaggeration or something. how do you explain that? becaus
he's kept the confidence of the president and secretary panetta. so he will keep his job. the war will go on as it has for the past 11 years. >> jennifer: okay. since the president and secretary panetta issued a supportive statement does that indicate his denial checks out? general allen has denied, of course, having an inappropriate relationship with jill kelley. >> what a lot of people here in town think it means is that if he broke some form of protocol or some military guideline...
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obviously that has spurned leon panetta to look into it. we spoke with a source close to kelley who went on to say there wasn't any kind of a sexual relationship between these two, but did not say they were completely innocent, either and they say they wouldn't try to dissuade anyone that there might have been some flirtatious nature and depending on your point of view, you might find them inappropriate or not. but as i mentioned, no one has seen the specific contents of these e-mails just yet. >> obviously, so much as you say may depend. i know you've talked to people familiar with that relationship, but so much will depend on the wording and what was in there. we hear descriptions of jill kelley. rich socialite, socialite, lavish lifestyle, but you've taken a look at that and the financial records for the kelleys and it doesn't exactly add up, does it? >> reporter: jill kelley, on the surface and people who had seen her at various parties and events, all the different fund raising things she had done, say they never really knew this, but
obviously that has spurned leon panetta to look into it. we spoke with a source close to kelley who went on to say there wasn't any kind of a sexual relationship between these two, but did not say they were completely innocent, either and they say they wouldn't try to dissuade anyone that there might have been some flirtatious nature and depending on your point of view, you might find them inappropriate or not. but as i mentioned, no one has seen the specific contents of these e-mails just yet....
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ambassador, why are you putting me out there versus the secretary of state or the cia or even leon panetta. >> does this tell you it is cover-up or conspiracy? are we talking about a major cover-up that we are defeating al qaeda or simply just pretty poor performance by all of the people up the line in dealing with this attack? >> well, it is why we need to get to the bottom of all of the questions that i identified earlier and it is one of two thingsb and you have said it, it is either blatant incompetence or misleading the american people. so i would like to know the facts so that we will know exactly what happened and most of all make sure it does not happen again. we had four brave americans murdered, and frankly, their families deserve answers, and the american people deserve answers on this to make sure that we get to the bottom of it and it does not happen again. >> thank you so much indeed for joining me. >> thank you, piers. >>> i want to bring back general mark kimmon who is secretary of state and been with david petraeus for 25 years. general, welcome back. one thing that struck
ambassador, why are you putting me out there versus the secretary of state or the cia or even leon panetta. >> does this tell you it is cover-up or conspiracy? are we talking about a major cover-up that we are defeating al qaeda or simply just pretty poor performance by all of the people up the line in dealing with this attack? >> well, it is why we need to get to the bottom of all of the questions that i identified earlier and it is one of two thingsb and you have said it, it is...
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leon panetta orders ethics review. the fbi agent, he's the guy who brought down the millennium bomber. >>> taking out the military leader of hamas and fire from the gaza strip. >> israel will continue to take whatever action is necessary to defend our people. >> we'll talk to michael oren, israel's ambassador to the united states. >>> and president obama at this hour in staten island to hear from storm victims. >>> plus, say cheese. new members of congress pose for their class photo. perhaps the last time they'll look this happy. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in new york. as the nation learns about the key players and the controversy surrounding general david patreaus, successor at the cia on capitol hill briefing members of the house intelligence committee today. joining me now for our daily fix, chris cillizza managing editor of postpolitics.com, and kelly o'donnell and correspondent pete williams. pete, first to you. talk first about what is going on in the investigation? the fbi agent who was first only kno
leon panetta orders ethics review. the fbi agent, he's the guy who brought down the millennium bomber. >>> taking out the military leader of hamas and fire from the gaza strip. >> israel will continue to take whatever action is necessary to defend our people. >> we'll talk to michael oren, israel's ambassador to the united states. >>> and president obama at this hour in staten island to hear from storm victims. >>> plus, say cheese. new members of congress...
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also apparently looking for an exit are defense secretary leon panetta and steven chu and also ken salazar. even attorney general eric holder and transportation second ray lahood, the only republican left in the cabinet, could be leaving as well. in 2008 obama told "time" magazine he wants his cabinet to be a team of rivals saying, quote, i don't want people who just agree with me. i want people continually pushing me out of my comfort zone. what should we expect this time around? i would bring it to the table. so i think the biggest one people are talking about is who is going to replace hillary clinton. the two names who have voted is u.n. ambassador susan rice and john kerry. i have no problem with susan rice. i think she's fantastic and unfortunate how she's been treated recently. i tell you, john kerry during this campaign has been fantastic in his debate prep with the president. i thought his speech as the dp nc was brilliant, and i think he would be a terrific diplomat. there's concerns that if he was nominated then the senate -- his senate seat would be open and scott brown could h
also apparently looking for an exit are defense secretary leon panetta and steven chu and also ken salazar. even attorney general eric holder and transportation second ray lahood, the only republican left in the cabinet, could be leaving as well. in 2008 obama told "time" magazine he wants his cabinet to be a team of rivals saying, quote, i don't want people who just agree with me. i want people continually pushing me out of my comfort zone. what should we expect this time around? i...
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however, the pentagon -- panetta's spokesperson says this involves 20,000 to 30,000 documents. that's a lot of documents sent between jill kelley, a civilian woman, and a tom general in afghanistan. doesn't that raise red flags? >> there is from 2010 to 2012. this covers a couple years. they're not documents the way we consider documents. these are e-mails going back and forth. if you see the way people blackberry with their iphones and text back and forth, it's still a lot, but i think what they did is -- >> do civilian house wives in florida have communications like that with top generals in afghanistan? >> i think jill kelley isn't your average civilian housewife in florida. we'll get into this more later. but she is a major figure around the central command base in mcdill air force base. >> and well-known in washington as well. >> that, too. you see that she's going to visit petraeus in washington at the cia and petraeus is telling this to broadwell, and broadwell and he have just broken off. so you can watch the wheels turning there, she's thinking did he throw me over for
however, the pentagon -- panetta's spokesperson says this involves 20,000 to 30,000 documents. that's a lot of documents sent between jill kelley, a civilian woman, and a tom general in afghanistan. doesn't that raise red flags? >> there is from 2010 to 2012. this covers a couple years. they're not documents the way we consider documents. these are e-mails going back and forth. if you see the way people blackberry with their iphones and text back and forth, it's still a lot, but i think...
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so it's clear that panetta is sort of saying there, well, you know, they do have a point. and that they ought to have known. if you're the fbi, though, there's a real question here, which is, you have to be really careful. they're all haunted by j. edgar hoover and the notion that they'd be investigating another agency or somebody in a powerful position to use for blackmail, et cetera. so i think what they did and i have talked to law enforcement officials today. i think what they did is erred on the side of caution which is, no national security implications. criminal investigation. and then went to clapper who is petraeus's boss when it was completed. people will be second guessing that including members of congress. >> gloria, thanks for that good reporting. thanks very much. cnn, by the way, repeatedly tried to contact paula broadwell for comment. a neighbor tells cnn she is in touch with broadwell because she's helping take care of her north carolina house. she wouldn't reveal exactly where broadwell is right now. let's bring in tom ricks right now, author of the new
so it's clear that panetta is sort of saying there, well, you know, they do have a point. and that they ought to have known. if you're the fbi, though, there's a real question here, which is, you have to be really careful. they're all haunted by j. edgar hoover and the notion that they'd be investigating another agency or somebody in a powerful position to use for blackmail, et cetera. so i think what they did and i have talked to law enforcement officials today. i think what they did is erred...
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likely to be in a classified setting, i don't know, but i do know this, that we're likely to call leon panetta and general ham and others in the armed services committee and i believe the foreign relations committee would want to hear from secretary clinton and all those who were responsible for consulate security. the problem is, that the three committees will not be able to hear what the other groups are saying. >> joining me live is democratic senator bob casey of pennsylvania, member of the senate foreign relations committee, also chairman of the congress's joint economic committee. sir, good it to have you here. we say congratulations about your re-election but we have to dig down deep on this big story because right now, we have senator graham, we have senator mccain, calling for a select committee. they feel like they are not getting the answers they need and won't get the answers they need otherwise. what is your reaction to that? >> well, there's no question whatever format it takes we need to get answers to a lot of questions. some of that process has begun. we had a briefing yesterd
likely to be in a classified setting, i don't know, but i do know this, that we're likely to call leon panetta and general ham and others in the armed services committee and i believe the foreign relations committee would want to hear from secretary clinton and all those who were responsible for consulate security. the problem is, that the three committees will not be able to hear what the other groups are saying. >> joining me live is democratic senator bob casey of pennsylvania, member...
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., that secretary of defense leon panetta and general martin dempsey were first told of the attack. at 2:53 a.m., some phi hours late -- five hours later, orders were formalized to allow special ops to deploy to benghazi, but as we know for ambassador chris stevens and three other patriots, it was too little, and it was hours too late. the ceo of concerned veterans for america, sir, welcome and thank you first to your service of to this country on veterans day. >> thank you. shannon: how worried should we be? is it normal or not normal that you have a mission under attack, an ambassador personally imperilled, and the defense secretary isn't noted, the joint chief staff not notified for fearly an hour? -- nearly an hour many. >> that is something that should trigger at the very highest levels a series of things to happen. it's not as though the pentagon didn't know about this for 50 minutes. reports have shown that the commander, general hamm, was at the pentagon that day, ordered an aerial drone -- unarmed, maybe they didn't have armed assets available -- but he's looking at any num
., that secretary of defense leon panetta and general martin dempsey were first told of the attack. at 2:53 a.m., some phi hours late -- five hours later, orders were formalized to allow special ops to deploy to benghazi, but as we know for ambassador chris stevens and three other patriots, it was too little, and it was hours too late. the ceo of concerned veterans for america, sir, welcome and thank you first to your service of to this country on veterans day. >> thank you. shannon: how...
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i don't mean this as disrespect to hillary clinton or leon panetta or even barack obama. these are tectonic plates in the middle east. the idea it's going to make a material difference in these things, no. >> does anyone have a real sense of where egypt might go in all of this? >> i think egypt's a quarter to a third of the arab world. cairo is one of the historical centers of the arab world. we don't have an idea. the muslim brothers. i'm not sure they do. we don't know how much to take literally, what they say, what they write. they got the parties, the governments, the forces against them. they came into government fairly narrowly. but they're clearly trying to deepen their base. so everyone's watching really closing what they're doing with the rewriting of the constitution. how these people want to consolidate power. what they say in the middle east, it's one thing to win an election. that's the easy part. are they willing to lose an election. are they ready to set up a political dynamic? >> remember we have to talk about hamas and we have to think about iran. some of
i don't mean this as disrespect to hillary clinton or leon panetta or even barack obama. these are tectonic plates in the middle east. the idea it's going to make a material difference in these things, no. >> does anyone have a real sense of where egypt might go in all of this? >> i think egypt's a quarter to a third of the arab world. cairo is one of the historical centers of the arab world. we don't have an idea. the muslim brothers. i'm not sure they do. we don't know how much to...
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you have secretary clinton who is there, defense secretary panetta. the other thing we've got to remember is this is not the only part of the world that needs attention, because while we are looking at asia and that is a really good thing the chinese are trying to take one of our bases in the azors, and if they do that they will be dominant in the atlanta atlantic. jenna: which base is that. >> own an island called tecerra where we are going to cutback and call it a ghost base. the chinese are looking, they want that base. from that base they can control the mediterranean, interdict shipping in the atlantic and they are only 3,200 miles from where we are sitting in new york. jenna: what is stopping them? nothing will stop them if we decide to leave that race because of budget reasons. that's why sequestration is so important because the military is holding down fort around the world where we rely on our security. jenna: we'll have to pay closer attention to that. i want to ask you as well about something we saw or learned about this week. north korea
you have secretary clinton who is there, defense secretary panetta. the other thing we've got to remember is this is not the only part of the world that needs attention, because while we are looking at asia and that is a really good thing the chinese are trying to take one of our bases in the azors, and if they do that they will be dominant in the atlanta atlantic. jenna: which base is that. >> own an island called tecerra where we are going to cutback and call it a ghost base. the...
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from them about the possibility that senator john kerry could be nominated to replace, to succeed leon panetta as secretary of defense. >> i think that's true. they certainly weren't falling over themselves saying we would vote to approve john kerry if nominated, but they didn't have any kind of aversion to him either. he's one of the club here in terms of the senate club. but back to this whole question of susan rice, i think as i mentioned before, i was the one who provoked senator graham and senator mccain into talking about susan rice because the question that i asked was something i've been hearing from democrats, which is this, why are you so opposed to susan rice after she made some potentially incorrect or what now seemed to be incorrect statements publicly when they supported condoleezza rice back in the bush years for secretary of state after she clearly made incorrect public statements about weapons of mass destruction in iraq. and that's what provide voloked whole discussion. it comes to a question, it seems to me, certainly they're angry and these republican senators are calling f
from them about the possibility that senator john kerry could be nominated to replace, to succeed leon panetta as secretary of defense. >> i think that's true. they certainly weren't falling over themselves saying we would vote to approve john kerry if nominated, but they didn't have any kind of aversion to him either. he's one of the club here in terms of the senate club. but back to this whole question of susan rice, i think as i mentioned before, i was the one who provoked senator...
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secretary panetta testified to this, and let me just read one section of his testimony. the collective result of these kinds of attacks could be a cyber pearl harbor, an attack that would cause physical destruction and loss of life. in fact, it would paralyze and shock the nation and create a new, profound sense of vulnerability. members of the senate, we are warned. we are warned clearly. we are warned directly, and we are warned by the cyber commander general alexander, as well as
secretary panetta testified to this, and let me just read one section of his testimony. the collective result of these kinds of attacks could be a cyber pearl harbor, an attack that would cause physical destruction and loss of life. in fact, it would paralyze and shock the nation and create a new, profound sense of vulnerability. members of the senate, we are warned. we are warned clearly. we are warned directly, and we are warned by the cyber commander general alexander, as well as
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even on capitol hill, a group of republican senators sent a letter to have panetta to express their concern. so what actually happened on election day? let's ask the former justice department official and co-author of the book "who is counting, how fraud steres and bureaucrats put your vote at risk." i guess your the perfect guest for this type of situation. what ended up happening with the screwup and the military absentee ballots? >> there was a general decline in the election overall, but there seemed to be a steeper decline in military voting. i think this is because of two things. one, major failure of the department of defense. two years ago they were recommended by the military postal system to put in a state-of-the-art mail forwarding system. they failed to do that. that delays mail to military voters, particularly absentee ballots by 15 to 50 days. if they had put in a new system, that would have been cut to three days. they also didn't put in voting assistance offices on all their military bases the way they were supposed to. the d.o.d.i.g. said they only did it in about half of m
even on capitol hill, a group of republican senators sent a letter to have panetta to express their concern. so what actually happened on election day? let's ask the former justice department official and co-author of the book "who is counting, how fraud steres and bureaucrats put your vote at risk." i guess your the perfect guest for this type of situation. what ended up happening with the screwup and the military absentee ballots? >> there was a general decline in the election...
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there have been -- secretary panetta. they have been more effective. some of the strikes have gone down lately. i do n know how to read into that. does that necessarily mean we're increasing that pair militarization -- paramilirization of the agency? petraeus suggested this ca position and gates embraced it in november and december and did not ta to obama about it until january. the first time they talk about the position was in march. the president had been mulling it over. i never got the sense from him, from the president, from petrae or anyone on the national securit council that he would be put there to militarize the agency. petraeus is thinking how the defense department is shying away from this large scale boots on the ground operation and gates said the next leader who decides to commit to one of these operations should have their friend -- heads examined. petraeus is thinking even if -- as he goes to the agency, that is the future of warfare. i would be speculating if i guess the president had an intention of turning the agency into an oss. t
there have been -- secretary panetta. they have been more effective. some of the strikes have gone down lately. i do n know how to read into that. does that necessarily mean we're increasing that pair militarization -- paramilirization of the agency? petraeus suggested this ca position and gates embraced it in november and december and did not ta to obama about it until january. the first time they talk about the position was in march. the president had been mulling it over. i never got the...
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there will be people in the intel committee that will not be able to ask secretary panetta, general ha*pl and others about the -- general hamm and others about the d.o.d. piece. the best thing for the senate to do, i think, is to have a bipartisan select committee where you combine the resources of all three of the committees who have jurisdiction over different pieces and create a professional approach to solving the problem. it will be run by our democratic colleagues because they're in charge of the body. it should be. there have been times in the past, iran-contra and other examples of where committees combine their resources to make sure that they full lip understand what was being said. if you stovepipe this and one committee goes one way and the other committee goes another way we're not going to get the complete picture of what happened in benghazi. that's what we're asking, is that the majority leader and minority leader create a select committee of the three kw-ts that have primary -- committees that have primary jurisdiction over each moving part so we can get to the bottom
there will be people in the intel committee that will not be able to ask secretary panetta, general ha*pl and others about the -- general hamm and others about the d.o.d. piece. the best thing for the senate to do, i think, is to have a bipartisan select committee where you combine the resources of all three of the committees who have jurisdiction over different pieces and create a professional approach to solving the problem. it will be run by our democratic colleagues because they're in...